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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Nice articles sprkplug. I forwarded the links to a few people that fish my pond.
Thanks.
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Good stuff Tony. One message that comes across to me is maybe it's best to layoff fishing the BG when they're on the nest and maybe a moving max harvest size would work best for preserving the best genetics.
By "moving max harvest size" I mean something like if the best BG in your pond are 8 inch, then harvest maybe 6 inch or smaller. When you best BG get to be 10 inch then move the harvest size to say 8. I started using this approach last year in my new little pond with a "7 or bigger goes back" limit. So we culled a few fish in the 6 to 7 range for the table. Not saying this is correct, just something I'm trying....
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In part 1, the first pic seems to be of slightly stunted BG, in the last pic, (it looks to me) to be a hybrid, not a pure strain BG.
Good articles Tony!
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Two very interesting articles about bluegill populations. Thanks for taking the time to find them and offer links to them.
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The gar article is good too! It expresses my sentiments exactly.
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In part 1, the first pic seems to be of slightly stunted BG, in the last pic, (it looks to me) to be a hybrid, not a pure strain BG.
Good articles Tony! Scott, I thought the very same thing.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Yeah Spark, that was a really nice recap! Thanks!!
Monday, the 4th. You ready? A whole new world out there.
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About as ready as I can be. Nervous, but excited. Some good news, got a letter telling me I have gotten a raise, effective Monday. Haven't had a raise in over 14 years, let alone one before I even started the job.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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About as ready as I can be. Nervous, but excited. Some good news, got a letter telling me I have gotten a raise, effective Monday. Haven't had a raise in over 14 years, let alone one before I even started the job. I would be excited!! Soon tho, you will have the boss eating out of your hand 
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About as ready as I can be. Nervous, but excited. Some good news, got a letter telling me I have gotten a raise, effective Monday. Haven't had a raise in over 14 years, let alone one before I even started the job. Good for you Tony! There are definitely advantages of being employee vs. a sole proprietorship. I've thought about it myself at times.
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Good stuff Tony. One message that comes across to me is maybe it's best to layoff fishing the BG when they're on the nest and maybe a moving max harvest size would work best for preserving the best genetics.
By "moving max harvest size" I mean something like if the best BG in your pond are 8 inch, then harvest maybe 6 inch or smaller. When you best BG get to be 10 inch then move the harvest size to say 8. I started using this approach last year in my new little pond with a "7 or bigger goes back" limit. So we culled a few fish in the 6 to 7 range for the table. Not saying this is correct, just something I'm trying....
I was re-reading an article in the Sept/Oct PBM by Bob L. this morning and found this excerpt that makes me feel a little more confident about my harvest strategy. Bob states: "Here's a big secret to bluegills. Don't ever harvest the biggest ones. Take the next size down. The biggest ones defend the beds, keeping most of the younger fish at bay. If a bluegill can't spawn, its energy stays focused on growth."
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It is especially important up north to not harvest the biggest BG males because of the time it takes for them to get that big. In the south it is still not a good idea to harvest the biggest male BG but not as critical as up north. BG grow slower and live longer up north as a general rule.
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