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Well THE Raiman came to see me this weekend. He started spraying the lime and alum on Friday. It was about 75 degrees and not much wind. Saturday, he finished it. The weather Saturday was a different story. Started out in the 30's and didn't get much warmer. Wind was blowing about 30mph. The guy worked his tail off and didn't stop till he was done. I'm still amazed at the final product. This pond has been a pain in the rear since I've owned it. Nothing I tried ever worked. I now have a new pond thanks to Rex. Getting started. Take note of the boat trailer on the right Chocolate milk You can actually see the wheels on the trailer now. It's working! I've never seen under the dock before My new favorite picture I can't say enough good things about Rainman. Hard worker and a helluva nice guy. We did have a few "moments" but nothing that couldn't be fixed. He did almost submarine the boat once though. Thank you Rainman!!!! I actually want to fish the pond again.
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Looks amazing! Well done.
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Looks great! Rex is super. CMM
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Rainman's hair raising side adventures are guaranteed on every job, yet remain free entertainment, and serve as an added bonus to his hard work and professionalism. Well done, and congrats Cisco on the new clarity!
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Cisco, That is amazing how the water went from chocolate milk to where it is now. Looks like Rainman did a great job. Did you ever figure out what caused the suspension on the clays, that made it so muddy?
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Great stuff. I expect in the cooler weather it will stay like that for some time.
That second picture had me thinking "jaws" your going to need a bigger boat.
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The Good Brian, that looks great! Rex did an outstanding job.
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Tracy, I think it was mainly the wave action combined with having nothing growing around it. Never got much growing but the native weeds took over. I did get some rock around it. I can't wait to get back down there in a few days. It should be even clearer. Thanks again Rex! Went from an eyesore to something I'll get more enjoyment out of.
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TGB (Cisco) Looks amazing! Have any ideas low long the treatment will last ?
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Rainman said at least until I can get some plants growing come spring. now that sunlight can penetrate the water, I should have something growing soon. He said I won't have a muddy water problem again unless something major happens. I'm going to get a good rain late this week so We'll see what happens. I do plan on doing some more planting this spring and maybe even bring in some more rock. It's looking good so why stop now? It was never going to end anyway was it?
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If it wasn't for the third pontoon under that rig a little wave action and a little weight up front....
Looking great!!
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That is an amazing difference.
Ain't it great when a plan comes together?
Great job Rainman and glad it came out so well Cisco.
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That's amazing, Cisco. Looks good! How much lime and alum did Rainman dispense in your BOW?
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Pat, the treatment is permanent, unless bottom sediments are stirred up and flushed out. A massive influx of new, colloidal clay could also overwhelm the positively charged Aluminum Ions, but since nearby ponds on the same hillside are clear, the latter is unlikely.
With light able to penetrate now, planktonic algae, macrophytes, submerged plants, and other good things will blossom and naturally filter any new sediment loads.
stickem, 4160 pounds of Aluminum Sulfate and only 1500 pounds of Hydrated lime (Type S)
With the heavy wind/wave action that would normally stir up sediments into the pond, the water was getting clear, fast. Even my prop sending huge amounts of mud into the water along the shores left the water muddy for no more than a minute or two before clear again.
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If it wasn't for the third pontoon under that rig a little wave action and a little weight up front....
Looking great!! Canyon, I do load it to the tipping point, and though I did manage to nearly swamp a trash pump while the front of the boat took a peek under the water, the pumps were not running. (unlike the last underwater exploration with both pumps running at full throttle...)
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Rainman do you think the treatment will take out the tannins that all the ponds around here have after this spring?
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I was impressed by how fast the water cleared. With the money that I had spent trying to get grass growing , etc., etc., etc. this was the way to go. I should've done it years ago but like to do things myself. I just watched the master this time and it worked well. I'm headed back to the farm this morning mainly because I just want to go marvel at it! More pics to follow!
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Pat, it does let sunlight help bleach out tannins, but does nothing to remove the staining. All Alum does is allow all negatively charged Ions in solids attach to the positively charged aluminum. Another benefit is that all the phosphorus in the water will bind, becoming aluminum phosphate, and be unavailable to any algae to uptake and grow.
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Cisco's water does have some tannin staining from mesquite. About the only thing that can be done to remove tannins, is mechanical filtration, which isn't really practical.
FWIW, I have successfully cleared a LOT of muddy water, and even I was slack jawed at just how well Tater Pond cleared up....especially in such heavy wind/wave action on Saturday. I'd fully expected the pond to clear, but had also told Cisco that the winds/waves would probably keep everything stirred up badly. The "floc" particles were very large and easily visible when stirred up, and fell out of the water like rocks.
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Cisco,
How's the pond looking after all this rain?
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Chris, I asked the same question yesterday and was told he'd be there later in the week. The way his pond reacted to the Alum treatment, and the fact he has 2 ponds getting runoff from the same watershed, without suspended clay, I'd bet his pond never clouded much at all in the rains.
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Sorry guys, been busy. I'll be back out there Friday afternoon. I'm curious to see what it looks like. I'll post with some pics in a few days.
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Well my main pond was somewhat muddy after getting 5.5 inches of rain in 2 days. Not anywhere near as bad as it was but muddier than it was after Rainman left. I pulled a bottle of water from out on the end of the dock and it was clear when I collected it and just as clear 1 1/2 days later. No sediment in the bottom of the bottle. I'm thinking it'll clear right back up this week. That was a lot of rain in just a few days so time will tell.
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? Ronald Reagan _______________ The good Brian
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