Anth this is a great review - and while not surprising considering with whom you're working, is still very valuable to the forum. Before I engineer another pond, Otto will be on site consulting - it will be a cost I build in for the client that simply isn't negotiable. If a client wants to cut corners and take risks to save money, it's not a project in which I'm interested. Thankfully I have a day job that pays the bills, and can afford to walk away from projects.

Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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