RbaumPond... well, rats! I was hoping they had move south for the winter and we wouldn't have to deal with whatever we have to, to rid the pond of the perch. We are of a mind to catch the cats, The Three Musketeers we call them, and get rid of the rest with whatever means we have to, but we also have geese and whistling ducks that visit so poison is out of the question. My husband thinks we should just drain it and start over, but I'm hesitant because I've heard that you end up with more problems. Anyway, thanks a bunch for all the help you guys have provided noob pond folks. We bought the place in January and the pond has been in place for a decade I think. The boy has dredged up bones, buckets, and things I don't even know what they are. It's a jungle down there.