Liquidsquid, Thank you very much for the tip. This proof in the pudding stuff I like. I will look it up and do this test tonight. I have the softener salt just in case too. I can do this several times and try the various topical treatments and see what works, starting with the cheapest first of course. Sounds like a very good idea.

I remember talking to the pond doctor people and they said specifically not to compact with a sheepsfoot roller and I think I saw it on their website too. He basically said it was just a commonly accepted fallacy. I don't have the answers so I'm glad there are experts that do. What would be really great is if the experts actually had the same answer. Contridiction makes it so hard to discern fact from conjecture.