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My hope is to dam up the upper valley behind the cabins in the narrow canyon. Remove the cabins and create a large pond in the same area.
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Looks like areas of New Mexico or Colorado? Where are you? That will make a difference on the advice you receive.
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Eastern Idaho, 15 miles s/e of Idaho Falls, thanks!
The property was actually one of Idaho's State Fish Hatcheries in 1901, the original 2 ponds are still on the property.
My hope is to get permits to dam the Spring up the canyon and rechannel the stream to improve the fish habitat across the valley floor.
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Welcome to the Forum, Scott!
Big Sky country needs more Pondmeisters!
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Neat, neat place. Do you live there full time?
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
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That actually has been a problem. I live in southern California, the property is up in Idaho. I did have a friend living there for a year, but the last 2 years it has been vacant except for weekend activities for local friends. The original earth dam collapsed and the water diverted from 2 of the ponds.
My goal is to take the next 3 years and create a resort/farm as a business.
Once my Water Rights have been expanded/established then I can work on the engineering of the property. I am so glad to have come across this site, I hope it helps me avoid many mistakes that are bound to happen for a novice like myself.
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There's a lot of information and resources here to help you on your journey that really aren't more than a question mark away. Welcome!
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Where in So Cal are you Scott. There aren't to many of us from So Cal on here.
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Hi MikeyBoy, I live down in Rancho Santa Margarita (Mission Viejo area).
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Ah cool deal. I'm from the San Fernando Valley. Glad to have another So Cal person aboard.
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Amazing pc of property Scott! A hearty welcome to the show. I assume that utility power has been routed to your cabins...? (just curious; those "out in the middle of nowhere" properties intrigue me). Keep this project high profile on this forum. It will be a blast to follow.
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Ah cool deal. I'm from the San Fernando Valley. "I am a VAL, I know But I live like in a really good part of Encino so it's okay"
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Only showing yer age there theo! while the rest of ya's are getting all excited about aprons, me Sunil and MikeyBoy are bringing atleast a little bit of cool to this forum!
Incredible place Scott. We all love pictures here so thanks for taking us along on your project.
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Only showing yer age there theo! while the rest of ya's are getting all excited about aprons, me Sunil and MikeyBoy are bringing atleast a little bit of cool to this forum! I believe this comment deserves an.... OH SNAP!!!
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Great looking property Scott .. quite an undertaking .. looking forward to following this post
No such thing as a problem .. just opportunities
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No power on the property, although the entire western side of my property are 43 of the largest windmills you have ever seen. Bringing power to my property was quoted at over $1m last year - so that option is off the table. The property is going to be 100% off the Grid. Plenty of wind up on the cliffs and water running thru the valley, so I believe there are options available.
Quite an undertaking might be an understatement! Starting with authenticating/expanding water rights and seeking permits for now.
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The closest pond expert to my property is Aqua Habitat. Anyone have experience or can provide feedback for me?
Thanks
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I added another photo to my first post, and am interested in referrals anyone has on Aqua Habitat. I am considering working with the company to establish new stream and pond design.
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Scott you should call Mike as it will be worth your effort. He is a PB writer and here is his info.
Mike Mitchell is a respected seasoned fisheries biologist based in Longmont CO. .He is Senior Aquatic Biologist of Queen of the River Consultants, Inc . Mike has a passion for the Rocky Mountain west, serving clients with projects ranging from trout stream renovation to small pond management to urban ponds. Reach Mike at mike@qorconsult.com or call his office at 303.651 251 4.
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Thanks, I sent an email to Mike.
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