Shorty, Thanks I have checked the local bait shops and I have gottensome form them and they are typically the ones that don't make it. I am now at thepoint of capturing them wild from a bay about .5 miles form my house on Lake Ontario. During this time of year I can pick up some really nice ones in my minnow traps and nets.

Bender, I am looking to see if I can find any that will deliver to the area but nothing yet.


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1/10 - 1/4 acre pond plus 16 ft deep/ Plus 40 ft by 20 ft by 6 ft deep koi and fathead minnow pond next to it. Upstate NY