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We have some pretty cool woodland trails cut thru the LNP project and know that the deer use them frequently. Not sure about other critters, but I think it's time to find out. - There are SO many different game and trail cameras out there. Of course, I want to keep it cheap. I hope and expect to get a decent still photo trail cam for around $50 (???) What are the pro's and con's of these things? I also expect to have wandering trespassers, and if they appear on media they will likely either blast it or swipe it. How do you mitigate that possibility? Are there trail cams that are so tiny that they can be hidden inside a dead tree trunk...or something like that? Also, I assume that I would not want the "flash" feature to function for fear of exposing it's presence. Are there units that have adjustable exposure to photograph in dusky areas without the use of flash?
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We just got a StealthCam Prowler, on sale for $349 at Cabela's with an additional $50 rebate, more for the "wandering trespassers" aspect of photo taking, but I haven't had time to play with it yet. We were looking for a camera with decent IR flash and photo taking (which hopefully this will have) to try and keep it undetectable by said trespassers.
We need to figure out exactly where we want to place it for the best picture taking and the lowest obtrusividity (gee, Firefox says that's not a real word!).
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Brettski, I have tried many of the "cheap" trail cameras & ended up with a Cuddeback Digital(not cheap).. Mine is a flash, but they make some infra red non-flash types..du
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I bought a Moultrie Game Spy D-40 at BPS on sale for $69.99 a couple of months ago and it has performed quite well for a cheap game cam. I used it to confirm the existence of my resident 9-10 foot alligator. You might want to check it out. I figured if it got stolen, I did not have much invested in it.
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I have a Moultrie and a Cuddebak.
The Cuddebak takes pictures.
When I set the Moultrie, I have no idea whether it is going to work. However, I once got over 400 pictures of a deer feeder on a really windy day. After owning it 2 years, I brought it home yesterday and am playing with it again.
Bret, $50 and good game camera are antonyms. This is a case where cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Brettski.. I would not recommend anything but a digital style trail camera. I have a TV at the cabin, so bought an inexpensive card reader(like Sandisk) and can go to camera,pull out the memory, then look at,delete,etc the new pictures while I'm there. I keep a second memory card, so I can take one home & load the pics on my computer.. I'm sure there are other ways, like some cameras have a screen on them(but have read bad things about them), but this works great. These cameras are going to a higher pixel, but not coming down in price much..here are 2 pics one daylight & one at nite..du
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agree with digital comment. Much like feeder you get what you pay for. BTW I have tried out 8 brands and cudde back is the best, but..Recently started tyring Moultrie I-40 and love it. We sell moultrie cameras btw if anyone is interested. The I-40 takes great pics and IR technology is where things are going. We sold several of these at $190 vs. $230 in most stores.
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Ken/catmandoo,
Is that an interloper in your last photo?
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Ken/catmandoo,
Is that an interloper in your last photo? If it is, he caught him red handed! I gotta get me one of those. You never know what goes on without one. Problem is, how do you hide it?
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For security, mount it up in a tree. Use one of the no flash, IR ones.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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I just purchased a cam called Snap Shot Snipper... Kinda of expensive but will worth the money... http://www.snapshotsniper.com/Features.htmIt uses a digital camera that can be removed and used anywhere just like a normal camera. Check out the link...
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Tried them all, Stealthcam, Wildview, the Moultrie I-40 worked great until it stopped, the Cuddeback was probably my most reliable, going on 3 years with one. I exchanged the Moultrie for a Leaf River IR, the Cabela's employee just laughed when I brought it in. The Leaf river is definitely the most secure of any camera I've seen. You can thread a cable like a Python lock around a tree to the mounting hardware and secure the front with locks. So far, the the pics are comparable to the Cuddeback. http://www.chasingame.com does a decent job of evaluating some of the cams
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Mike, I've also tried a bunch of them and the Cuddeback has been the best of a sorry lot. I'm still trying to figure out how to set up the Moultrie. When I walk away from it, I never really know whether it's going to work.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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DD, I thought the Moultrie I-40 was the one when I first bought it, great battery life and great photos. But, it started dropping the date/time, then started missing pics. I returned it because the display would no longer work. There is a software update on the Moultries, but for me it was a short term fix. The cheaper Moultrie, around $100 was a great buy as well, it still takes great pics but drops the date/time.
The Cuddeback is still working like a champ, I'm real interested to see what the Leaf River does over time. I have a trespassing issue and bought the LR because you'd have to take the tree down before you could steal the camera.
Hope ya'll have a good deer season, I have two really nice deer caught on film,hopefully they won't be poached or spotlighted before one of my kids has a shot at them.
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Some recent discussion on game cam's prompted me to bring this thread back for review. No....we haven't gotten one yet, but it's buried somewhere in the budget.
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We have some different ones. This is the most recent. I'd classify it as ok; but not perfect. http://www.predatortrailcams.com/
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ok posted on another thread but will put it here now
For me persoanlly there are a few important features; does it work consistently easy to use battery life quality of picture infared (better) longevity The Moultrie I40 is my best seller, $180 for PB clients btw and come with 1 gb card. I also sell good many cuddebacks and new bushnell camera (it is tiny and uses AA batteries that last). I have been trying out the Wildgame innnovation camera to see if I got a cheaper option that works well. Good luck and I suggest reading reviews of the cameras as well.
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Greg,
Hate to say anything bad about a product that someone sells but has the I-40 display issues been fix. My LED went out last year and I got it back to Moultrie 1 day before the warrentee expired and the replacement one (last year) is starting to go. I hate to have to replace this every year.
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www.chasingame.com does a decent job of evaluating some of the cams I've used that site for evaluating trail cams, and both of the trail cams that I've purchased have the same + and - that they have noted in their reviews. Maybe not at first, but over time the problems have shown up. I think trail cams are a lot like computers. The technology is changing so fast that after a year or so they are outdated compared to what is on the market. How many trail cams are still in use after being out in the field for 2 years straight?? Should they be looked at as having a one or 2 year lifespan? My I-40 was only in the field for 3 months, then in the house for the off-season. When fired up for the next year (after the warranty ran out) the display was illegible, but the camera still worked. I used it that way for the next year, and neglected to send it in during the off season. I put it out in the field this year, (2 days ago) and don't know if it's working properly. I did get some pics, but no animals. From what my experience has been, finding a camera that has a very fast "wake-up" time and super fast trigger time is the most critical aspect of the camera. If the trigger time is slow, then the animal will have time to walk out of the cameras' view before the shutter is tripped.
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lassig, I apologize I have only sold them for a little over a year. I sold only Moultrie and I did not notice the issue but then scott metnioned it and had another so now your three. I have not spoken to Moultrie about this issue but stinks to hear it.
This summer got lined up for wholesale hunting supplies, amo, archery, etc. so started selling other cameras. I know few years ago I spent way more money on a cuddeback than other apst cameras which I loved but then it went bad and had to pay $115 for repairs or $125 for new 'capture" model. I choose that route. I sold a couple of leaf rivers this summer and customer had issues right out of the box.
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That chasingame website has good things to say about the Reconyx. But for now, I'm sticking with the I-40. I pulled the card from it and while there were deer prints in front of the camera, no pics were taken. I moved teh camera and will see if it takes any tonight. If not, then it'll be sent in for repairs. I like the laser aiming guide that it has better than the other brands that have you walk past the front of the camera and see if it triggers.
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I agree, the laser aiming feature is a favorite of mine...
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My I-40 has taken over 8,000 pics this year and very few of them where blank pictures, so it is taking pictures. Jist getting very hard to read the display. I pulled the cameras last weekend, I don't like them out during hunting season. Just don't want the extra activity on the property dealing with them. They will go back out in Feb to start seeing who servive the hunting season and winter. I am hoping the display is working enough then to us it.
I will say this camera has great battery life, only used 2 sets of batteries for 6 months of operation.
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funny scott got several clients complaining about reconyx. Just this year troubel with moultire, wildgame, cuddeback, leaf river. So far no compliants on this one from ones sold. Online like all cameras godo and bad reviews. Leaning toward buying it on my next purchase. http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores...tems#itemDetail
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