Thanks mmorgan, I would like to have the pond shocked to see what is really going on. Do you know anyone close to augusta that does it or how much would yall charge to drive here and do it. I just added 15 christmas trees and a few of the pocipine attractors about three weeks ago so hopefully in time that will provide some benifit. When is the best time to stock threadfins I stocked the other pond in late may and I think the bass may have hammered them because I never really saw any schooling action all summer. I was wanting to add some F1 to the 3 acre pond but I figured I would only be making the problem worse until I got the bass under control.