New poster needing advise on existing pond - 05/15/15 01:13 PM
There is a one acre pond on land where I am going to build a house. It was strictly a livestock pond and never stocked with fish. There is no longer livestock on the property and will only have the possibility of very small numbers of livestock in the future.
I decided to see if there was fish in the pond, so I put a bucket feeder on it with floating feed. After a week or so there were tons fish hitting the feed. I have had ponds in the past that were naturally stocked, so I expected to have a pond full of mudcats and goggle eyes. I got a pole, and to my surprise, all I caught were some type of bream and 3" to 4" shiners. I did catch a large channel cat, but I've been putting some in there out of the lake, so I know where it came from. There are tons of small bream, but I was surprised at how large some of them were. I caught one larger than my hand. These sunfish look like shellcracker that don't have a red ear. Do bluegill ever not have blue on them?
Anyway, the main thing I want to catch out of this pond is catfish. However, I figured since there is such a population of sunfish and shiners already that I could put some type of predator in there and get more good size sunfish. In addition, I'm afraid the shiners are going to eat a large portion of my feed for the bream and catfish. They literally swarm. There is no telling how many are in there. I was thinking about putting 20 or so HSB in the pond. I am open to LMB, but I really don't want them to get overpopulated with such a HUGE forage now and then have a ton of undersized bass when the pond comes into balance, or worse yet go the other way and have them eat too many of the sunfish.
Anyway, I'm not a total rookie at this, but I am by no means an expert. Any advice would be appreciated. I spoke to a local guy who sells fish, but was unimpressed at his expertise. He told me If I stocked enough channel catfish they would eat the shiners. I'm not sure I believe they could actually catch them.
I decided to see if there was fish in the pond, so I put a bucket feeder on it with floating feed. After a week or so there were tons fish hitting the feed. I have had ponds in the past that were naturally stocked, so I expected to have a pond full of mudcats and goggle eyes. I got a pole, and to my surprise, all I caught were some type of bream and 3" to 4" shiners. I did catch a large channel cat, but I've been putting some in there out of the lake, so I know where it came from. There are tons of small bream, but I was surprised at how large some of them were. I caught one larger than my hand. These sunfish look like shellcracker that don't have a red ear. Do bluegill ever not have blue on them?
Anyway, the main thing I want to catch out of this pond is catfish. However, I figured since there is such a population of sunfish and shiners already that I could put some type of predator in there and get more good size sunfish. In addition, I'm afraid the shiners are going to eat a large portion of my feed for the bream and catfish. They literally swarm. There is no telling how many are in there. I was thinking about putting 20 or so HSB in the pond. I am open to LMB, but I really don't want them to get overpopulated with such a HUGE forage now and then have a ton of undersized bass when the pond comes into balance, or worse yet go the other way and have them eat too many of the sunfish.
Anyway, I'm not a total rookie at this, but I am by no means an expert. Any advice would be appreciated. I spoke to a local guy who sells fish, but was unimpressed at his expertise. He told me If I stocked enough channel catfish they would eat the shiners. I'm not sure I believe they could actually catch them.