So golden shiners get hit pretty hard on this site and I feel confident that they will reproduce in the ponds I put them in.

Any one have any luck raising silver shiners??
They come mixed in with bait from the shop once in a while, but I dont know if they came from the river or a pond.

I hear silvers prefer moveing water, and walleye sure do like to eat silvers over goldens.

thanks guys.

Since they are native to streams/rivers, and spawn in gravel riffles, I doubt that they'd reproduce in ponds.

Many times golden shiners are referred to as silver shiners. Local names vary greatly between areas. Often times many species are lumped into the common name of silver shiner. Scientific names were created for this reason. Taking a few quality photos of these "silver shiners" would help in IDing them as possible good pond candidates.

fishm is probably referring to the emerald shiner; a common species in larger streams in north, central and eastern US. A good clear close photo would help narrow down the species as CJ suggests.

Golden shiners have reproduced in my pond, surprisingly very well. I also have FHM, YP and Walleye.

I found some old commercial Christmas garland (the kind cities use) and cut it into 5' strips suspended verticle from the surface of the pond in dense patches. When the water temperature approach 70 degrees (late June for us) I start to see the spawning.

I'll try to get some pictures. I've tried to match them to some on the internet, but the size requirements never fit. The adults are 6 inches and bigger.

I have pictures of the turtle and calico crawfish too. Just ahvent had time to load them.

Thanks guys

At 6"+ they are most likely golden shiners.
And the biggest that emerald shiners repotedly get is about 4.9".

Could it also be a 'common shiner'?

Here is a pic:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/reports/fishingreport/tmfimages/shiner.jpg&imgrefurl=http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/vhs/shiner.html&h=344&w=545&sz=42&tbnid=WlgzcsmnxIdlCM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=133&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcommon%2Bshiner%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=common+shiner&hl=en&usg=__gaNSzlKcwssXPngnucnbE5bHf0o=&sa=X&ei=00sET5elA4Xx0gGCsonOCw&ved=0CBkQ9QEwAw

Description here
http://fish.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Cyprinidae/common_shiner.html

Unlikely, as although common shiners grow to over 6", the fact that in the above posts it was said that the adults are over 6" makes me think they are not common shiners. It has been my experience most common shiners do not reach 6". They run in the 4"-6" range as adults with an occasional large one going over 6".